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accurascope procedure at north american spine institute

Started by Don on 06/10/2010 6:01pm

Has anyone been there and how are they feeling since surgery?

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I have seen a neurosurgeon in NYC late Nov and have scheduled endoscopic thoracic surgery on the herniated T9-10 disc for Jan 13. I'll try and let you know after how I do. I am nervous and would like to talk to someone who had this done and how you are doing. Lots of questions.

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homenet, I am thinking about having a thoracic procedure done at NAS. Do you have any information that made you opt out of it? I've got problems in the T-6-T8 area. Meds (gabapentin) get me off the floor but the pain is constant and usually wraps around the ribs when bad.

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btw, have you checked out this guy:

http://www.californiaspineinstitutemedctr.com/articles/ScientificArticles/vol2n3_discectomy.asp

it seems they may be able to take care of osteophyte complexes...

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yes i was there.......but reluctant to tell you the truth , as NAS checks on my comments.

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Hello spiebocks,

Dr. Chiu's procedure Posteriorlateral Endoscopic Thoracic Microdecompressive Discectomy sounds much more proven and safer. If you are a candidate for it. Contact him and ask.

Regards.

p.s.
Nils, tell us your story. Who cares if they read?

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useless

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useless,disabled

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i care and my family. we are worried

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i have been thinking about this treatment. i have read a lot of negative about this company.
still searching for more info.
i have heard that NASI calls and calls,once yo have send in your MRI.
and if you dont respond they can get pretty nasty.......i wonder why?

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a friend of mine had a bad experience in a clinic and his wife was desperate.
there is a facebook site. but only positive reactions......

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to robert pasovich:

i will answer a couple of questions by email.not here

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to robert pasovich:

i will answer a couple of questions by email.not here

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Well now 4 months into it. Pain almost no better than before. My testicular pain returns on occasion and the pain down the legs is also back on most days. The weather in Maine is cold and unstable in the winter. I am trying not to be discouraged, as they say 6 months to get total relief of the surgery. I hope to get more improvement as time goes by. I still believe that after the surgery they inject you with shots (cortizone or something similar) and it works for approx 2-3 months and the symptoms seem to return. There is slight improvement of approximately 5-10% but no where near the 90-95% as they say. The cost was $15K and now what. ???? I will be back in Feb to give another update. It is very difficult not to try and think positive, and that this just might work. The advertising is so good, almost a miracle if you have been suffering for years. Finally something that might work without cutting me open, wow.

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who did your procedure?

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Dr. Reed in Texas.

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Don,
I hope you are still managing to "hold your own" following your surgery. There is just simply no easy fix. It could take months and months to get relief, if ever.

It has been almost 13 months since Dr. Reed performed the accurascope procedure on me, and trust me it has not been a cake walk. Immediately following the surgery, my back felt great . . . on hindsight I think it was all of the steroids they pumped into the spinal column. However, I now have significant foot drop in my left leg, enough so that I now walk with the aid of BiLateral KAFO Braces and forearm canes. I had months of physical therapy following the procedure at two different places, the last being The University of Texas Southwestern in Dallas. The physical therapy is definitely a requirement. I don't think anyone unwilling to work hard at physical therapy should consider this or any other sort of spinal procedure. Like I said this is not an easy fix.

Five years before I had the Accurascope procedure I had undergone a Microdiskectomy at L4-L5. A traditional surgery with a very small incision in my back. It was done laproscopically, and turned out to be the best of both procedures. It relieved my back pain completely, had no residual effects, completely zapped the sciatica and allowed me to get my life back.

But, 2 1/2 years later I had my knee replaced. Evidently my body was put through tremendous contortions during knee surgery, because within an hour of coming out from under the anesthetic I was having mind numbing, screaming back spasms. The kind that sent the nurses running down the hall to find out what was happening. My knee pain was nothing compared to my back pain.
After another 2 1/2 years of Lyrica, Baclofen, hydrocodone, several other drugs and nerve blocks I went to Dr Reed. His honest declaration was that he could relieve the pain but that I might end up in a wheel chair in the process. I decided to go for it anyhow.

A couple of weeks after the accurascope procedure my back pain returned. Not as bad as before, but there none the less. It took about nine months for it to go away all together. Now my only complaint is an inability to walk unaided. I really can't totally blame Dr. Reed for that. I knew going in that it was a possibility, I just wanted to be free of the drugs and the pain. So, I took my chances.

Now, would I advise my sister who has just recently started having sciatica pain to undergo the Accurascope procedure? No, I would tell her to try traditional Microscopic surgery first, then months of Physical Therapy, epidural steroid injections and spinal blocks before heading for Texas! Then I would advise her to seriously consider which she would consider worse, the pain or the inability to walk.

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who is suffering a damage to the peroneal nerve after a backpain treatment?

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Concerning the peroneal nerve injury question: What kind of "back pain treatment." There should never be an nerve "injury" after any treatment.

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do your homework

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to herb silver
well it shouldnt, but it happened to me. footdrop, cant stand or walk

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to herb silver,don

two nerves were cut in my back. to felief me from backpain, they damaged the other nerve ith laser.

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to trident,Valkirie150

same happened to me. i am disabled since the operation

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Lindsey:
I didn't know you were talking about the surgery when you said "treatment." That is absolutely terrible. I hope you have seen a PT and fitted with an AFO. Also, you need an EMG--that might give you an idea about the extent of the injury and some idea about the chance of the nerve(s) healing. Also, if the injury is in your back, it would be an L5 radiculopathy (maybe L4)--saying "Peroneal nerve' implies injury to your peripheral nerve, at your hip or at your knee would be the common areas of injury to the peroneal nerve. It sounds like you are talking about injury to the nerve roots that eventually make up the peroneal nerve. Hopefully you don't have pain as a result of this. If you have pain, potentially there are things to do to calm down the pain from the nerves. Just throwing out ideas--medications like gabapenten or spinal cord stimulators. If you want to try a non-surgical electrical simulation device (and have $350 to spend which is returnable if it doesn't help), check out trancutaneous spinal electroanesthesia http://www.acticare.com/default.asp ). A very unfortunate outcome but I hope there is chance your nerve(s) will recover.

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to herb silver
i cant talk here. send me yr email address

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Lindsey;
you can reach me at herbsilver@gmail.com

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Well, I don't know why I am commenting this early after surgery, but I will comment nonetheless. I am still <2wks post op from an endoscopic discectomy surgery for T9-10 central extrusion (herniation). I was having wrap-around rib pain constantly that was like a wide band of pain. This was following an MVA in Feb 2010. I have other back pain areas (cervical and lumbar) as well. I've been treating conservatively for nearly a year in all areas including 5 spinal injections. The surgery Jan 13 was done in NYU med ctr. The L sided rib pain is gone. The R side pain is still there. I am not sure yet (b/c I was told it could take a month) if it will subside as well. The surgeon came in from the R side and the pain may still be surgical swelling pressing against the nerve and mimicing the original pain. I have surgical site pain also (one inch - midback). I can give updates as time goes on to let you know. That is why I came to this site originally was for someone to tell me whether it would be worth it or not to do the surgery. You can email me at homenet@frontiernet.net also. I was able to speak to a girl who had my same surgeon do the same surgery prior to doing the surgery. She was very helpful. I've talked to her since as well. She tells me I really need to give this a month for all the rib pain to subside. My surgeon was amazing, very professional, and NYU Med Ctr was awesome. I did have to have a pre-procedure done (insertion of a platinum coil - very tiny - into the corresponding rib of T10) to "mark" the site. It was called "localization" and done at a different facility under light sedation. I felt confident that the surgeon would be in the right place at the time of surgery. His name: Dr. Noel I Perin. Thoracic herniations are very rare and you need someone who specializes in this surgery. I had to travel to NYC from upstate NY for the surgery and had to incur that cost. I stayed overnight in the hospital, released the next day. The following day I flew home. I did fine with all of the travel. I have been on pain meds 4x/day since. I am still w/i post op period though. I think it will be worth it. Speaking of cost ~ exhorbident! I am praying that the insurance will cover it all.

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If Lawrence Rothstein is in any way involved with the doctors you might be seeing, STAY AWAY! He has permanently damaged people and has been sued to the point where he has his lawyer brother stationed in his office! He is an anestheologist, NOT a surgeon, has NO hospital privileges, no MEDICAL MALPRACTICE INSURANCE, NO backup doctors when complications cause hospitalizations, and he has been suspended TWICE by the Ohio Medical Board. He has hidden his assets and now damaged patients are having to sue the maker of the instrument he uses in these surgeries. He almost killed my son and caused him permanent harm. They decided not to sue because there is nothing left. They will speak to anyone who wants more information on the botched procedure that burned a hole in the spinal column dura, causing a devastating spinal fluid leak and the left behind remnants of the disc he left behind. If it wasn't for a courageous nurse who finally convinced a friendly neurosurgeon to take him on as a patient, I have no doubt my son would have died! This doctor and this procedure are not worth the risk!!!

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i am in a wheelchair, since i had an accurascope procedure.
drop foot, damaged nerves,no hope for recovery.
i feel useless,hopeless, and my quality of life is gone.

has anybody noticed that NASI has changed their website...adding risks now...too late for me.

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We spoke to Dr. Reed about their website and stated to him that their site makes it sound like a real miracle, but when you get there you hear a lot more about outcomes but they do still push that it really should help and that many people benefit It has been almost 6 months and really no relief at all. I was encouraged at first 2-3 months but like I said before, I really believe it was the shots that get injected after the procedure. Hurting everyday. Barely go out of the house. Pain meds relieve little pain but take the edge off. Rib, leg, buttocks, back and neck pain. Restless legs also. Very anxious for summer to see if heat will help. Good luck to anyone needing surgery. It is a scary decision to make but when you live in pain daily, you just want to try anything that sounds like it actually makes sense. Maybe it works well for some, but I have not had any positive feedback from really anyone. I hope that people find this discussion before they decide and at least make a more informed with some actual patients like us.

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We spoke to Dr. Reed about their website and stated to him that their site makes it sound like a real miracle, but when you get there you hear a lot more about outcomes but they do still push that it really should help and that many people benefit It has been almost 6 months and really no relief at all. I was encouraged at first 2-3 months but like I said before, I really believe it was the shots that get injected after the procedure. Hurting everyday. Barely go out of the house. Pain meds relieve little pain but take the edge off. Rib, leg, buttocks, back and neck pain. Restless legs also. Very anxious for summer to see if heat will help. Good luck to anyone needing surgery. It is a scary decision to make but when you live in pain daily, you just want to try anything that sounds like it actually makes sense. Maybe it works well for some, but I have not had any positive feedback from really anyone. I hope that people find this discussion before they decide and at least make a more informed with some actual patients like us.

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don
sorry you are having such trouble. In 1993 I had a work related injury to my lower back with pain down my left leg and in my lower back. Long story shorter, tried everything was left to believe the pain was in my head. Finally in 1996 on my 27th birthday I went to see a Dr. in Maine who informed me that he knew what was wrong with my back and could help me. I ended up with a fusion from L4-L5-S1 and it worked wonders for me, I was still in pain but I could control it and was able to return to work. I also was told that at some point down the road the disc above the fusion would wear out, but it was worth going through with the fusion. I have had the expected problems with the discs above the fusion and now need a discectomy at the L3-L4 level. Knowing what I know now and what I have been through I would still have had the fusion because it gave me much relief for a long time, I can now feel my feet and have no testicular pain. The pain I do have is driving me crazy and I am in hopes the discectomy will help. Cortizone injections have worked for almost 4 years, receiving them every 3-4 months, but not anymore. I know what you are going through and do feel for you,if you are interested in the name of the Dr. who performed my fusion let me know. Good luck man!
Sorry for the rambling!!!!

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